Lucas_Strongbow: What gadgets did we get? Heronius_Napalm: no idea Heronius_Napalm: too long ago for me Ace_Justice: our robot got emotions I think Ace_Justice: ace got a robot tongue Lucas_Strongbow: Sounds like the wizard of oz Lucas_Strongbow: Did Hero get a brain Lucas_Strongbow: OH SNAP Heronius_Napalm: He got more fires. blurb joined #pwot_dnd2. Heronius_Napalm: many more fires. Lucas_Strongbow: I get nothing blurb quit. Alek_Deckard: And I don't think Alek got anything, sides talking to a beholder barkeep and meeting Shippy, but no one we were playing were people who had met Shippy before so whoops. Lucas_Strongbow: That's what I get for not turning up Uovana joined #pwot_dnd2. Alek_Deckard: Also oh hey, I think I'm a feat short on Alek. Heronius_Napalm: oh my Alek_Deckard: That's problematic. Heronius_Napalm: not really Heronius_Napalm: just have to pick one Lucas_Strongbow: What level are we again? Lucas_Strongbow: 7? Heronius_Napalm: 7 Alek_Deckard: I have no idea what feat to get for him, hmm... Heronius_Napalm: improved init and toughness are always nice Heronius_Napalm: hmm Heronius_Napalm: weapon expertise Heronius_Napalm: always good Alek_Deckard: I have a weapon expertise, toughness perhaps. Igfig: By the way, is everybody caught up on boons? Igfig: I think I finished them all, but it's been a while since I looked at them Heronius_Napalm: I have mine Heronius_Napalm: so yes Alek_Deckard: I hadn't taken a peek at it in a while. Ace_Justice: yeah neither have I TheGM: I'm really hoping you guys went to the wrong door or something Ace_Justice: that would be hilarious Heronius_Napalm: that would be something we do TheGM: dude was just about to tell you "you want the evil dudes at 132, this is 123 TheGM: But no, KA-CHOP Igfig: gotta pee, back in a sec Heronius_Napalm: uovana will be back in a minute as well Lucas_Strongbow: It's going to be something like that isn't it Lucas_Strongbow: We were supposed to go to 616 but the sign on 919 has fallen upside down Lucas_Strongbow: I always assume we're being played against the middle anyway Lucas_Strongbow: Shippy's probably just having us eliminate some competition Igfig: back TheGM: Well yeah, standard procedure in this sort of situation. TheGM: Back when I DMed I used to have B use the characters to play the middle against A, only have it actually be C masquarading as B. TheGM: But I had a group that loved them some intrigue, so that was the bare minimum they would accept. Sometimes it got...complicated. Alek_Deckard: How complicated? Igfig: Intrigue is great with the right group Ace_Justice: we are not said group Igfig: Any group this big is probably not said group Igfig: but yes TheGM: Well, we played in a large Magitech community. Somewhere I still have notes detailing the entire theoretical structure of all the major political organs. TheGM: There were three major religions, the monarchy, the nobles, the wealthy merchants, and a budding stock market. And two different police forces (one royal, one for petty crimes). Igfig: Have you ever played an Eberron campaign? I think you'd enjoy it. Igfig: Also that sounds awesome TheGM: I've never played Eberron, it was fairly new back when I stopped playing. TheGM: That's part of why I'm watching, to try to figure out how things work in 4.0 Igfig: Ah, I see Igfig: Well, don't get too attached to this system Igfig: 5e is coming out pretty soon Ace_Justice: oh yeah Ig, I played a little 3.5 this weekened Ace_Justice: end* TheGM: Haha, I won't. We ended up seguing to GURPS for that campaign anyways. Ace_Justice: it is completely rediculous Alek_Deckard: Yup. Ace_Justice: one thing I liked was the various ways you could fight without powers, but the skills system was terrible Igfig: 3.5 is a lot of fun with the right kind of game Fortuna: Igfig, is a lot of fun with the right kind of game: [] = 3.5 Ace_Justice: and everything has such low health and mods Igfig: the game is called "Rocket Launcher Tag" Heronius_Napalm: ahem Igfig: and oh man GURPS, that would actually work pretty well for a game like that Heronius_Napalm: There is a game going on in the other channel Ace_Justice: I've never played gurps Ace_Justice: oh yeah TheGM: We actually used the GURPS Lite rules mostly, because it really was all about intrigue. Combat was what happened when shit went wrong. Which it did on a surprisingly regular basis. Igfig: Well, that's how it usually should be Alek_Deckard: Any of you ever do Gamma world? Cause I bought gamma world, haven't had a chance to do anything with it, but it seems like a fun setting that plays it a bit looser with characters, and by looser with characters I mean less control and more dying. TheGM: Igfig: my general rule as a DM is that if my players don't say "Oh fuck" at least once every 5 minutes, I'm not being evil enough. Igfig: I concur Igfig: I strongly recommended Gamma World to Waffle & Hands & etc for their postapocalyptic maybe-zombies game Igfig: not sure if they took me up on it though Igfig: It's a great system Alek_Deckard: Oh interesting, I'll actually have the books physically with me then. Ace_Justice: I'm not playing dnd with hands anymore Ace_Justice: I had to break the news that no one wanted to continue our campaign, so he blamed me and quit the squad Alek_Deckard: Yar seems fun, lack of people to play it with here though, I'm hoping to get some time in with it though because otherwise I just bought a bunch of stuff I won't get to use, also also cause I plan to bring it with me on Thanksgiving to a get together. Igfig: Really? he left? Aw, that's too bad. I was looking forward to statting more evil shadow ponies Igfig: That's always a problem, Alek TheGM: Alek: Well, if you're up for a random person I'd play it. Just glancing at it now. Ace_Justice: Yeah, making monsters is surprisingly fun. I like making them more then characters TheGM: What kind of campaign are you thinking of running? Alek_Deckard: Yar, well, I don't know about online. Or me DMing, even though chances are I'll be DMing, which would be my first time DMing. Igfig: I have tons of RPGs I'd like to play sometime... Dogs in the Vineyard, Feng Shui, Paranoia, Gamma World, quite a few others... never enough people around Igfig: and I never have the time what with everything else going on Alek_Deckard: Oh hey HandofEvil is here. Ace_Justice: yeah that was convenient TheGM: Ace: I was always more of a traps DM. I had a lot of fun with "revese philosopher's stone fluid". It was everything that was seperated out when someone made a philosophers stone, and turned anything of value to muck. TheGM: My players hated it. So much. handofevil joined #pwot_dnd2. handofevil: Alright, who am I here. It's been so long I forgot Igfig: Oh, you were /that/ kind of evil DM? Ace_Justice: I prefer to play mind games when I dm Igfig: *shiver* Alek_Deckard: Also yeah, I mean there is my buddy who will probably join me, and I dare say I could have a younger sibling join. My little brother is off at College though so that would mean one of the little sisters, and yeah. Ace_Justice: I hint strongly, set up myths and legends in the local villages so that the party things one thing Ace_Justice: then suddenly the whole thing is a conspiracy Ace_Justice: it's good fun Igfig: indeed handofevil: So who am I here? Alek_Deckard: I dunno, um, not Drey, um. Igfig: I think you might be Holdr Alek_Deckard: Spear guy I think. Alek_Deckard: Was it a spear? handofevil: I handofevil: Think so Igfig: Except everybody's level 7 and Holdr appears to be level 5 Holdr: Oh right. I haven't leveld him on plothook Alek_Deckard: But yar, I was thinking of just doing the little stuff that comes in the books, like the little beginner scenario in the first gamma world book. Alek_Deckard: With the faulty robots and the hoop. TheGM: Not a bad idea for a first time DMing Igfig: Sure, that's reasonable. Ace_Justice: and GM would know Alek_Deckard: Though I wouldn't have enough players for those encounters in it to be of proper difficulty in real life, I don't think even with me having a character. Holdr: Wait, who is DMing? Ace_Justice: all of us Igfig: Right now? Slim and me Holdr: Ah Igfig: Mostly Slim TheGM: Alek_Deckard: Ah, newbie DM's amuse me, with their "proper difficulty" and suchlike. Crushing players is never a bad thing. Their screams are delicious. Holdr: Yes. Yes they are Ace_Justice: I enjoy their tears Holdr: I savor their pain Alek_Deckard: That and it is Gamma World, it is kinda designed for player characters dying. A lot. Holdr: Pyrokentic Cockroaches cannot die TheGM: But you ccan always have one of the more experienced players double up if you need to. Just make one of their characters fairly easy to roleplay. Like a big dumb mook. TheGM: That way they can have a "real" character, and one that's just there for game balance. Holdr: *couch* Waffle *cough* Holdr: Uhhh Holdr: That's supposed to say cough Alek_Deckard: Very true, though, experienced player in this case would be my buddy, who has done D&D with this group. His characters aren't particularly emotive anyways. Holdr: Are SparkyMarky and YinYungYang here? Heronius_Napalm: they are Alek_Deckard: Si. I am me. Alek_Deckard: AKA Yin. Alek_Deckard: And Lucas is Sparky. Holdr: After we're done here, we need to work out a time for the zombie campaign. Ptom may be joining us. Alek_Deckard: Fun. Alek_Deckard: Also I was thinking of going with my dwarf swarm druid for that campaign thing. Holdr: We'd be starting at level 1 unless you guys wanted to start at a higher level Alek_Deckard: Nah, de-leveling is easy. Igfig: You're playing a druid in a zombie campaign? Alek_Deckard: An insane swarm druid. Alek_Deckard: Based on the Renfield guy from Dracula, sorta. Igfig: Neat Alek_Deckard: Plus that would work well with the Blight Beast paragon path. TheGM: That could be fun Igfig: Decided to go with 4e after all, then? TheGM: what flavour of insane? Holdr: Well, it was waffle who wanted the other systesm Holdr: systems* Holdr: I was fine with 4e Alek_Deckard: The devour others to gain the power of their souls, serve under some type of master he worships type. Maybe less so with the soul part, though the whole flies being eaten by spiders being eaten by rats being eaten by cats being eaten by dogs thing sounds aptly insane. Alek_Deckard: I suppose skipping straight to zombies would also work. Holdr: I still have yet to determine whether I'll be starting you guys in a refugee camp or at the actual start of the apocalypse TheGM: Oh, a blend of Mad Scientist and Igor then almost? Holdr: I hate how silverlight eats up all the ram TheGM: Crazy abominations against man and loyalty to an equally insane master in one package? Alek_Deckard: Yup, sorta kinda. Holdr: Just look at all that ram Holdr: http://gyazo.com/905ce71ff3a668a79520fdf5bf8ee424 Alek_Deckard: I'm not sure what you linked there is, looks like a download thing. Holdr: It's a screen capture... Holdr: I'm not sure how it could be mistaken for anything else Alek_Deckard: Oh wait yeah, it is telling me to download silverlight plug-in in order to see it. Alek_Deckard: Duh me. Holdr: That... shouldn't be required Igfig: Silverlight is taking 800MB? Wha. Holdr: Yup Holdr: It always does Holdr: But only on chrome TheGM: That's beyond bloated. At this point that can only be described as "WHOA DAMN THAT'S HUGE!" Lucas_Strongbow: Are we gonna be given characters for the zombie thing? Holdr: The funny thing is is that it onlyh takes a few minutes to reach that Holdr: Nah. Just make your own Holdr: Level 1 Alek_Deckard: I was thinking of using my dwarf swarm druid, here he is but I have to de-level him yet. Alek_Deckard: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=308191 Lucas_Strongbow: Ok Lucas_Strongbow: I really want to make a character whi talks like an elcor now Holdr: We'll work out a time once we're done here Holdr: DANG IT I WAS GOING TO DO THAT. But go ahead Lucas_Strongbow: Would he be appropriate for a zombie game? Holdr: Anything is appropriate Lucas_Strongbow: sweeeet TheGM: That's the time you bust out the Sr. Vorpal Kickasso method TheGM: and multi class in everything at once, so you're at level 1/12th in each class Alek_Deckard: And wear a mustache. TheGM: That goes without saying Lucas_Strongbow: Tell me more about this method Alek_Deckard: Read Goblins, this shall teach you of this method and more. Holdr: Anything legal by definition of the character builder is appropriate Alek_Deckard: http://www.goblinscomic.com/06252005/ Alek_Deckard: Very good comic, might take a bit to get to the Sr. Vorpal Kickasso part though. TheGM: Man, now I want to go dig up that old intrigue campaign. Stupid finals season. Alek_Deckard: But yar, hey Sparky, you could make a character who my character refers to as his master, be kind of odd to not have a master around to refer to, unless if no one plays the guy then he could be an npc somewhere doing something. Holdr: I Lucas_Strongbow: What's your character? Holdr: What Holdr: I think I see a personal quest or something Alek_Deckard: An insane dwarf swarm druid who is kinda like that Renfield guy from Dracula. Lucas_Strongbow: Ooooh Lucas_Strongbow: Kind of like an Igor Alek_Deckard: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheRenfield Alek_Deckard: But yup, kinda like an Igor. TheGM: Heh, I remember an old campaign where one character was playing a Wrench Wench who was fanatically devoted to my Andriod. Then the Android went nuts and decided to enslave humanity and she went full on Igor mode. That was fun. Ace_Justice quit. Alek_Deckard: That sounds like a lot of fun. TheGM: Yeah, if you get a good thing going between the two characters you can have a lot of fun with the dynamic. Holdr: I've got a bunch of minor quests planned out right now, I just need to come up with an overall plot point for everyone to work to TheGM: Just always remember that servants have a surprising hold on their masters, and everyone gets a chance to screw around. Lucas_Strongbow: I might go Warforged for the robotic, elcor like speak Lucas_Strongbow: But that sounds too much like DAVE Lucas_Strongbow: Also, I haven't made a magical character and I want to Lucas_Strongbow: DECISIONS Holdr: Sword Mages are good Holdr: They are my favorite class Alek_Deckard: They are definitely a fun class. Lucas_Strongbow: Maybe a cleric? or a healer Alek_Deckard: A sorcer class would be good for a striker. Lucas_Strongbow: I assume we need a healer Alek_Deckard: My swarm druid is technically a controller, a semi-tanky one, but still a controller. Holdr: We'll have Ptom along as well. Lucas_Strongbow: If I'm stuck I'll just rip off one of my current characters Lucas_Strongbow: Bucas Longmow Alek_Deckard: Nah you should make a new one, new characters are fun. TheGM: Sacul wobgnorts Holdr: I agree. Just doing the same character over and over again is boring Lucas_Strongbow: Ooh, Thri Kreen Lucas_Strongbow: That's alien enough for the elcor thing Holdr: Oh hey it is TheGM: I've suddenly decided that if I start playing again I'm making a character called Ty Thir, who is obsessed with the number 29, because fuck you that's why. Alek_Deckard: I like the number 29, it is my go to random number, which I suppose makes it less random. TheGM: I suppose I could go with 30 and see how long it takes people to catch on. Alek_Deckard: I dunno, especially since I'm already not caught on. TheGM: I'll go with that then Holdr: New Skill for the zombie campaign: Coolness TheGM: I think there's a GURPS advantage for that somewhere Alek_Deckard: I can definitely get behind this skill, but I don't think the insane dwarf would, well, unless, actually insane characters do have a tendency to be cool lately. Like Deadpool, and those other guys who tend to be kooky insane. TheGM: If you want something to base it off of. Lucas_Strongbow: What's the ability for coolness? Heronius_Napalm: CHA Holdr: Anything that makes you cool Alek_Deckard: Also done de-leveling my guy, I just wrote a big (I don't have this) over stuff like feats for later levels, cause I was feeling lazy. TheGM: I would say it's based on your highest attribute (it's a pretty unimportant skill gameplay wise, so no problem with a little fun) and that determines the falvour of cool. Heronius_Napalm: true TheGM: I.e., strength makes you a badass, dexterity makes you a card-shark, intelligence makes you a badass bookworm, etc. Alek_Deckard: So in the insane dwarf's wisdom then, or I suppose constitution but that has nothing to do with insanity. Heronius_Napalm: wisdom would be it Lucas_Strongbow: I'll see about my thri kreen when I pick a class Holdr: Awesome Old Mentor? TheGM: Or Mad Scientist Alek_Deckard: Yar more like that. TheGM: That's normally more an Int thing, but just basing it off of your description. Alek_Deckard: Wait. TheGM: OOOOH, or badass hermit priest Alek_Deckard: That'd be more intelligence with lack of wisdom probably. Alek_Deckard: for the mad scientist. Alek_Deckard: Um. TheGM: All Monk style TheGM: Only, y'know, druid instead. Alek_Deckard: I was thinking kinda like the druid from the lets play of one of... Icewind Dale I think, the lets play with Heronius Napalm in it and the druid who gets his wisdom modifier a bit too high. TheGM: Don't know it. TheGM: To the internet! Heronius_Napalm: Marty McSuperfly Heronius_Napalm: He has bongos Thorn: Yar, very bongos. Heronius_Napalm: He sees into forever Thorn: And broke the fourth wall. Heronius_Napalm: More he was meta-aware Thorn: Yar, seeing the other guy's brief daydream. Lucas_Strongbow: Marty McSuperfly is the best name for anything ever Black_Dynamite: Si Heronius_Napalm: There was also pip prancerson, and clobberella Black_Dynamite: Dwead Piwate Woberts Black_Dynamite: But Clobberella is the best Black_Dynamite: Also Super King Black_Dynamite: Captain Yesterday is an okay name I guess Lucas_Strongbow: Citizen snips? Black_Dynamite: Oh man Black_Dynamite: That would have to be a pixie Heronius_Napalm: my favorite TheGM: oh fuck, help! TheGM: I'm trapped on TvTropes Black_Dynamite: Citizen Snips was so awesome he managed to scare Teddy Roosevelt. Heronius_Napalm: ? Black_Dynamite: NO Heronius_Napalm: close the tabs Thorn: Dun dun duns, sorry. Heronius_Napalm: close the tabs!! TheGM: Shut down all the garbage desposals! TheGM: I mean close all the tabs! Thorn: Also may want to clear out your history for the last couple of hours too, just to be safe. TheGM: Incidentally this is your fault for linking me to it Thorn: I apologize, I managed to not go to any pages beyond the renfield one. I usually end up going through the horror tropes index. Lucas_Strongbow: I watch a film and then go through it's page Thorn: Oh man, the urge to reference Monty Python is strong, so I'm going to do it over here instead. Lucas_Strongbow: Did Rango the other day Thorn: Old woman! Can you tell us the name of the lord who lives in yonder castle! Thorn: And now I feel better. Lucas_Strongbow: We're an autonomous collective TheGM: Hmmm, I should probably start using a client that can show images. Black_Dynamite: I see no image Thorn: We are looking to purchase.... a shrubbery. Lucas_Strongbow: Have to stop Lucas_Strongbow: This rabbit hole runs deep Thorn: There was so much old woman stuff in that movie. Thorn: The guy who wasn't an old woman, the lady with the cat. Thorn: Actually i think that is all of it, but still. Lucas_Strongbow: Shut up, you're making me want to watch it Lucas_Strongbow: Also, my character for the zombie game will be a thri kreen sorceror Black_Dynamite: Awesome Thorn: What type of sorcerer? Thorn: Dragon, wild, storm, star, I think that elemental heroes one the elementalist is an essentials version but I haven't looked at it much. Uovana quit. Lucas_Strongbow: Ooh, hadn't decided Lucas_Strongbow: Actualy watching that Autonomous Colective bit now Lucas_Strongbow: Look what you've done Thorn: Oh dear. Lucas_Strongbow: Also, my avatar on the forums is Zorak from Space Ghost Lucas_Strongbow: I'm apparently obsessed with praying mantis Black_Dynamite: I have no idea what BD should learn Thorn: Play the air with your fists. Fortuna: Say please. Black_Dynamite: NO Black_Dynamite: PLAY THE AIR WITH YOUR FISTS NOW FORTUNA Fortuna: Say please. Black_Dynamite: Fiiiiiiiiine Black_Dynamite: Please play the air with your fists Lucas_Strongbow: Black dynamite... Lucas_Strongbow: Bass Lucas_Strongbow: NOT RACIST Black_Dynamite: I want something that will go along with his afro fist Black_Dynamite: Like with my Sword Mage, I have her on a keytar Barvo: hmm Thorn: Well. Barvo: that weird instrument that you play with hand gestures? Barvo: a dulcimer? Thorn: Or, I thought it was a therm something. Barvo: it is Barvo: a dulcimer is a different thing Thorn: Theremin, yar. Dulcimer is kinda lutey. Thorn: Lutey/piano without the piano-ey. Black_Dynamite: Theremin looks cool Black_Dynamite: Hmmm Black_Dynamite: HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Black_Dynamite: I'll see what everyone else picks Lucas_Strongbow: They are the most fun to play with Igfig: huh, this challenge won't be as exciting with only three people Igfig: oh well Thorn: Well. Thorn: I suppose I could have Alek along too and have him learn something. Thorn: Or it could be a bit late. Barvo: why not Barvo: make it exciting Black_Dynamite: 1d20+6 STR to hit it to make it work Fortuna: Black_Dynamite, STR to hit it to make it work: [2] = 8 Black_Dynamite: GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Thorn: I dunno. Having Alek come in out of nowhere to help would be good. Igfig: Go for it Black_Dynamite: I think I remember why I stopped playing with BD now Thorn: Maybe back-up vocals, that seems like something a cleric would fit in to. Igfig: sure Black_Dynamite: WHY DID I NOT DO THE ELECTRIC KANTELE IT IS SO MUCH MORE AWESOME Barvo: haha Black_Dynamite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgFsgkNmMg0&feature=relmfu Black_Dynamite: JUST LISTEN TO THAT Lucas_Strongbow: Sweet Jesus that's atmospheric Black_Dynamite: If there was a way we could get two people playing them Black_Dynamite: Holy crap Lucas_Strongbow: That would be the raddest shit Black_Dynamite: *cough* Alek TheGM: Oh man I would fail this one so hard TheGM: I have no concept of metre acapella. Black_Dynamite: Neither do I Black_Dynamite: I just rhyme Black_Dynamite: Sort of Black_Dynamite: MY CHIN ITCHES. WHERE IS MY RAZOR TheGM: haha, you're being given a pity pass. This amuses me. Igfig: They're no Fingers when it comes to improvised lyrics, that's for sure Black_Dynamite: I'm no Fingers when it comes to lyrics of any kind Igfig: or Brisgby Igfig: aye TheGM: The characters can pass, the players aren't up to it. This is like when 14 year olds try to play wise old men. Alek_Deckard: Or, when a bunch of guys on the internet pretend to be a bunch of comedians on an improve show. Barvo: I am the worst at music TheGM: IIRC the beat is DAH da da DAH da da DAH da da DAH TheGM: or 123 123 123 1 if you prefer. But I may be way off base. Been awhile. Black_Dynamite: I miss fingers Barvo: we all do TheGM: Now I'm imagining you guys at a gig, and somebody yells "PUNCH IT!" as you start. TheGM: And BD...he doesn't do metaphors too well. Black_Dynamite: No. No he does not Black_Dynamite: That's why he has a fist that can punch concepts TheGM: The night ends with the bar exploding and you running off with the cash and women. TheGM: Really you're like modern vikings. Black_Dynamite: You say that like it's a bad thing TheGM: I did? TheGM: Oh man, the only reason I'm an economist is because it's the same thing only the cops don't come after you. Now you tell me it's BAD?